Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: SimpleCart PHP-Nuke 7.8 Port
I'd love to leap out of my seat and sling kudos about how wonderful this mod is, but in my world, business and life in general something has to actually work before we start throwing parties.
I've spent nearly a year tweaking, recoding, fixing, repainting, tiling, plumbing and putting a new roof on various versions of PHP-Nuke and at 52 years-old, I am running out of life trying to fix, repair, tape together scripts that just do not work.
I've never been able to get away with this in real life. When I build something, my customers don't want to hear how someday it may work, even if it is free, they want something that actually does what is advertised or they want to fire somebody, bury their name in goat grease.
Now I find what some BLURB touted as America's Best Shopping Cart or some such thing? Yeah, I doubt that was verbatum, but to that premise anyway.
IT DOESN'T WORK!
Maybe that doesn't mean what it used to in America... in that regard, coders are not alone. Got my car fixed... mechanic did a half-ass job and then said, "Well.. that's the way it goes. What'd you expect?" WHAT YOU PROMISED IS ALL!
But I digress... America is getting scary in that regard.
Back to the coding.
ANYONE, ANYWHERE have a version of this that ACTUALLY WORKS OUT OF THE BOX?
I installed the Simple Cart .81 on Nike 7.8 with security fixes, uploaded/added the sql database, all went as it should.
Entered the General Store Options, address and site name configs, all seemed to go well.
Then I tried to edit the Main Page and got the same error most did.
Fatal error: Call to undefined function: filter() in /mounted-storage/home7/sub003/sc14429-VJVC/www/scnv/modules/SimpleCart/admin/index.php on line 900
I changed the modules/simplecart/admin/index.php like advised on another page in this forum.
Changed $row['main'] = filter($row['main']); to $row['main'] = filter($row['main'], "nohtml");
Did not help whatsoever. Same error messages.
I then recoded the simplecart.sql using the revisions another coder (Tolwyn) added or subtracted in his foo.txt version of simplecart.sql and even that had an error, one of the quotes was missing causing the database to fail. (can be found here http://files.tolwyn.com/foo.txt )
I fixed the missing quote and even that did not allow the foo.txt recompilation of the .sql databse to load correctly so I removed it and reinstalled the DEFAULT simplecart.sql database and that is where I am now.
When I commented to another phpnuke provider about two years wasted trying to fix Php-Nuke which even after two years still does not work, they said, "You get what you pay for!"
Now there's an attitude that gets things done. Yeow! If I give somebody car and tell them it is the greatest thing since sliced bread, even if it is FREE it should live up to my professions or... I lied!
Come on guyz, galz and otherz... I've been in business for over 35 years and I felt an obligation to produce and provide products that actually worked and when they didn't, I made sure they lived up to the client's expectations or I did away with that product and recognized it for it's failings.
Now, KUDOS WHERE THEY ARE DUE!!
I really do appreciate the GREAT DEAL OF WORK AND DEDICATION some of you guys are providing in trying to make this thing work.
I really do and I am not slamming anyone. I know you are working your butts off to follow up on compaints and solve the issues before you and that is worthy of two bags of kudos and I appreciate and thank you for that.
I guess my issue is... at 52 years-old, I may be dead before PHP-NUKE and it's bucket of modules work well enough to actually use in a real life setting where customers, clients and associates really, really get pissed when things break down all the time.
I'd love to use PHP-Nuke and a cart like SimpleCart in a real life setting, but man... the way both work at this point, I'd be run out of business... I wish that wasn't so, but that's how the REAL WORLD of BUSINESS works.
Nobody in business has years to spend trying to get an engine to work, they want it to turn over when the button is pushed or the key is turned.
KEEP DOING THE GOOD WORK YOU ARE DOING! I KNOW YOU ARE BRAINSTORMING TO SOLVE THESE ISSUES AND WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT.
So... if ANYONE has a solution, a WORKING COPY of SimpleCart that works on 7.8, please let me know.
Joined: Jun 23, 2005 Posts: 582 Location: United States
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject:
Greetings NCochise and welcome to the boards! I understand your frustration. In fact one of the reasons this site exists, is to make PHP-Nuke just a little easier to work with. With exception for security, most anything offered here should be as described as above. Many changes have occurred from versions 7.7, 7.8 and especially 7.9. Admit it will never be completely right...but is any application ever completely right?
Are owners and/or directors of companies obligated to install all the software for their network(s)? Granted, much of what we do here is devoted to the upstart or small business owner who has to wear many hats. But many times (as I know from my own experience) we simply do not have the time. Most of what presented here, is my work or modification and improvement to others, but I also have outsourced as well. I choose rentacoder.com but there are many others.
And maybe I should state this somewhere, but everything I produce is done in whatever the latest build of PHP-Nuke that is offered in our downloads. Am I saying you have to upgrade? No. But the fact is, our applications are developed and optimized for the latest version. Because, much like yourself, it is the easiest path for me to follow with time restrictions as they are.
Thanks for the kind words my Friend! I have another shopping cart module that does work on versions 7.6 through 7.9. It is not for public consumption. Private message myself, I will provide a download link. Maybe offer assistance, so that you may carry on with your other duties.
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: Thanks Dada!!!
Hey! It takes a stand-up guy to read all of that RANT and understand that I was not slamming you or your product, but instead VENTING about the frustation I know we are all enduring.
Most would have taken the easy way out and just.. well, you know.
I respect you even more after your understanding and insightful response.
Yes! If you have another script that works on 7.8, I would love to see it. You can email it to me at lasvegan@cox.net or provide me a url and I will gladly download it and check it out.
Again... thank you for all the work you do and clearly understanding attitude you so graciously exhibited.
I am new to Dada, but have been playing with Nuke for just over two years.
I may have to check out the rentacoder site, my son and I built a cgi/html chat script a few years ago from components abandoned by Michael Fremont. He was way ahead of his time and started to build a web chat script back when bandwidth was expensive and the pipe was very small. Today however, my son and I made the script work, but... Neither of us know how to write the registration coding for the thing, so it sits with no real end use. Users cannot log in and retain their handles so, it's practically useless.
If you know of anyone who can write a registation script let me know. I will check out rentacoder.com and see what I can find there.
Thanks!
Oh... here is the chat script online. We only use it for family and friends, not much use without a reg script.
Is there a fix for ver. 7.8 yet? I just downloaded & installed the simplecart today and I feel like co-signing on the above vent post. It doesn't work and no one here seems to 1) know how to fix this, or 2) wants to keep the fix for themselves.
I shouldn't have to upgrade to a version that I don't want and is not safe to accomodate this module only at the risk of messing up other installs on my site. It doesn't work out of the box and I haven't read anywhere on these boards where it works at all.
This is my first time asking about it so I will wait to see what comes of it. I have been fooling with it for way too long with the amount of other work I have to do on my site to get it up & running. Now how should someone feel to get a download that doesn't work then see a "behind the scenes" link passed to another download that supposedly works? It doesn't look like the admins want a working version out or else the one that actually works would be up for download, but I digress.
It is a nice module in theory. I'm only waiting for it to be the same in practice.
Alright. Since dadabit is trusting my coding and stuff.
I will look at the cart tonight. I will install it on a fresh 7.8 with chatserv patch. I will tell you what I see over the next couple days.
I agree this should not have been programmed on a 7.9 while it was still being in the works. lol 7.8 is the way to go untill all the bugs get worked out.
dada i will help by trying to make it compatible with 7.8
could you give me other information that would be helpfull. I will download right now but cannot work on it till tonight.
Joined: Jun 23, 2005 Posts: 582 Location: United States
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject:
Thanks Dev! Hate to pull you away from the great work you are doing, you know I am a huge supporter
Nothing more to report, in that SimpleCart 0.91 is 7.9 ONLY! And if you read my above post, you know why I do it the way I do. Just impossible to handle all dependencies and packaging for given variations between PHP-Nuke versions. As you know, a lot of effort has gone into 7.9 on this site. I am quite proud of what has been accomplished.
I refuse to be an apologist for FB's mistakes and just do the best with what is given, contributed and donated from various members of our community. When Club membership spikes, and I can demote myself from full-time job to part-time...you bet I'll test on various versions! I'll even do a port for PostNuke! But such is not my reality at the moment. Thanks for your patience folks
I appreciate this folks. And might I add, this site is simply a beautiful thing to look at. I love colors, and orange/blue are my old high school colors too. But it's smooth running and clean looking.
But back to the topic, I look forward to seeing what happens with the fix, and thanks again.
I have fixed some of the problems. There is only a couple more i think. When i get done i will rezip it with the new mods and give it to you. It will work on 7.8 i know it will now. Some of the problems are so simple that you will all be pissed at me. lol
I still think these are some of the best mods out today but I wish I could get them to work ; ). I have just come back to it to revive my project and have not been able to determine from this thread if there is a fix to the simple cart main page (links along the bottom) editing problem?
Is this something that is has been fixed and I am missing it or is this what people are 'currently' talking about (working on?)?
Also, I can't seem to get simple cart to load in the home page?
Thanks for any help, simplecart is great, even if I have to work around in areas but it would be amazing if it just worked.
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SimpleCart .81 / 7.8
When trying to edit main page (and any admin links in bottom row)
Fatal error: Call to undefined function: filter() in /html/modules/SimpleCart/admin/index.php on line 901
yes i am currently working on the 7.8 compatability issues. I will try to be done soon. I am currently trying to fix the database input. I have fixed the filter problem but it does no good without being able to save. lol
Joined: Jun 23, 2005 Posts: 582 Location: United States
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: Simplecart 0.81 ported to work on Nuke 7.8
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I took the original Simplecart 0.81 and ported it to work on Nuke 7.8
It may work all the way down to Nuke 7.6 But no promises
This should work right out of box. I installed a fresh Nuke 7.8 with Chatserv patches.
Installed the cart. Located the problems between 7.9 and 7.8 and fixed them.
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